Its just unfortunate but true... Hear are some more great facts... Enjoy!!!I did not create this. However, I investigated it and found the statistics spot on:
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.
This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet
Tomatoes and Cheap Labor
CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
From a California school teacher - - -
"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic
and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK )
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care
etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements ?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing , higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc . For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it . Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education , that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate , and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about " politically correctness" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil , as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for
$5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an " earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches
at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense .
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans
are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!
THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.
Respectfully,
The Napalm
P.S.
Gardner I like how you grow lies. You’re not fooling anyone here but yourself. Please get an education. Oh wait my hard work and taxes should pay for that. You’re playing checkers with a chess player. Please go back to the drawing board, your Nazi propaganda will not work here. I got the reaction I wanted out of you puppet. I just pull the strings and you dance. I love it! Have a great day!
In addition, to the uneducated person that states "My expierience" with mexicans in the united states. NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR EXPIERINCE. THIS IS ABOUT STONE COLD FACTS AND YOUR DEAD WRONG! READ MY ARTICLES. YOU CLOWNS HAVE YET TO PROVE ONE FACT INACURATE. YOU KNOW WHY? YOU CAN'T! CHECK MATE TRAITOR!
32 comments:
Once again it looks like Napalm is using BIG BoLd lettering top get his same old POINT across...and unusual colors.
Hey Naplm if you are going to force the readers of this blog to scroll down the page like ten times, at least you can prove a different point than your previous entries.
Didnt you say all these points when you wrote HEY SOOS...this BLOG is gettn tired. I wish I could use different color fonts and and bold lettering when I respond to your e-n-d-l-e-s-s rants.
Napalm?? Do you have a point? Blah, blah, blah, blah, BLAH, BLAH, B L A H, BLAH,its time you get back to your sales job and stop trying to be a blogger.
I am playing checkers with a chess player? Well, its your move...my rook and knight have checked your ass. You have only one honorbale move left and that is to lay your king down, bitch!
KING ME!
The Gardner.
Great information Napalm. I love how you get under the lefts skin. Gardner has yet to dispute one of your facts, you have really changed my perspective to whats going on out there. That Gardner guy just uses name calling and nagativity. Instead of disputing facts he has to point out color and fonts. This is just another example of how when the left looses they resort to name calling and not addressing the issues.
Rick L
HA HA. I work with Rick. I have to say the office is rather enjoying this blog. Sorry Gardner the consensus is you have been checked badly. How can you say next move to Napalm when you haven't successfully challenged any of Napalm's points? You just resort to child like tactics like name calling and fonts? Who gives a shit how the guy presents because he has kicked you around like a dog tird. LOL...
Nicky O
I completely disagree, it sounds like Napalm has been saying the same thing over and over again and over and over and over and over.
Napalm had some good points during initial rant, but it is getting old now. I like the way the Gardner gets under the skin of the Napalm. All in all, its kinda funny.
Doug
Doug must be smoking crack. Gardner is obviously out of his depth. All he does is bitch and talk about fonts. Napalm has clearly burned the garder to the ground. THE GARDNER HAS NOT DISPUTED ONE FUCKING POINT!!! Napalm has only wrote three articles and he even stated the other two were not his. You liberals are so lost. The garner is a joke. Napalm your a great blogger keep it up buddy.
Gardner's daddy
Who is the Garner?
Sincerely,
The Dictionary
Oh fuck that was clever! More liberal wit please! Thats all you cunts can do. Napalm destroyed the "garner" Why dont you kick some facts liberal cunts? exactly!
Gardner's daddy
Hey Gardner stop posting Anonymous blogs pretending to be someone else. HA HA HA The Gardner should call himself The Dumb Shit! Napalm ROCKS!!!
I’ve been watching the carnage. As a Lawyer, there is no doubt in a court of law The Napalm would hold his head high and victorious. I’m disappointed how people have to use profanity though. Which to be fair, I first saw it from the Gardner. To the Gardner’s defense it’s not fair that people slam you. It’s like comparing apples and oranges. The Gardner is clearly not college educated, Napalm on the other hand is a very good writer and clearly educated. No one can argue that. I also fail to see how Napalm is rattled? Anytime people resort to name calling they have clearly been emotionally impacted. The Gardner is the epitome of this. Napalm I’m curious as to your views on homosexuals and marriage rights. Can you grace us with your unique point of views? I would like to end with some advice to the Gardner. You have not disputed any of Napalms facts, you just sidestep and name call. You have not convinced anyone. I appreciate your heart, but keep to the manual labor and let the intellects hash it out.
Tommy
Wow! Quite the response were getting.
Hey Gardner, I use the big fonts and pretty colors for you pal. Unfortunately, I can’t pass color crayons through the screen for you to scribble down your inept arguments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8
THE NAPALM
I didnt realize the "Boom-Boom Room" up in San Fran had an Internet connection. I guess Napalm and his boyfriends; STeve O and Tommy the lawyer got all in a fussy.
As you all can see from these previous responses, racial loyalties and prejudicies have historically weighed heavily in American immigration debates. So accustomed have Americans become to racialized persepctives that both advovcates and analysts tend to expect that the arguments of partisans for particular policies, whether for whether for or against restrictionist or expansionist goals, are motivated by racial bias' even when other factors may be more siginificant as we have all seen by the name calling associated with Napalm and his elementary arguement.
The current debates over immigration policy are too often being seen through such antiquated lenses,which distort rather than clarify our understandings and perpetuate outdated stereotypes.
We can go back and forth with name calling and BIG BOLD fonts or we can get down to business.
It seems that although your arguments have a hint of racial bias, they do prove key points which are hard to overcome...however, how do you explain the fact that your views are different than your president?
President Bush's view on immigration is different than yours. He is your commander in chief and he is in support of guest workers and a "path to citizenship." These views along with the Senates recent proposal of a new immigration policy prove that no racial bias.
How does your arguemnt fit into the mainstream America?
How can your point of view be supported by the masses, if your the head of your politcal party doesn't even share your view?
From an emotional point-of-view I can understand how you may feel disenfranchised because your Republican party has sold you out. I AM sure Naplam will cite Michael Savage as his main supporter, but how are your vies going to affect the polls. That is where we can truly see when our voices are heard.
Additionally, Napalm's arguements have tried to link the war on terror with immigation. The interesting part about that argument is that the 9/11 perpetrators had come to the US as tourists or students, not as immigrants. In other words, they would have been able to enter our borders even if our borders were sealed tight. This weak part of Napalm's argument suggests that the immigration debate should focus on the low probability that the next terrorists wil come through our southern border as undocumented immigrants. That would be highly unlikely because the next terrorists could much more easily enter our country as a commercial traveler, tourists or studen as mentioned before by meeting very minimal requirements.
In conclusion, the contemporary immigration debate is centralized around different arguments than in the past. The major commonality linking today's politcal battles with those in the past is racism. While historically racism may have driven immigration policy, today it is but one factor, and I would argue a relatively less important one in the CURRENT politcical battle. More relevant is the extent to which immigration concerns have been subsumed into the War on Terror. The transition affects how the nation's leaders and mainstream media/society, including LAtinos, view many of the issues that are the core of the immigration deabate. Finally, the economic consequences of immigration merit much more clear thinking. To achive this, it is essential to recognize that the impact iimigrants have on the wages and job market reflects how globalization affects international migration and has led to the restructuring of OUR economy.
Finally, I would add that a key element of the immigration debate should focus on the extent to which foreign governments unofficialy support emigration because it generates remittances and serves as a relief valve to avoid politcioal problems.
The grass is growing, the weeds are getting longer...I need to get to work.
The Gardner
Napalm takes an uppercut to the chin! He's is dazed...
Ty
I completely disagree. Napalm’s focus of his debates were certainly not terrorist attacks. Are we all reading the same articles here? The Gardner uses a typical liberal tactic in using terms like racism to discuss what he call’s Napalm’s racial profiling of “immigrants”. It’s important that we not delineate from the fact that these people break the laws of this nation. They are once and forever Illegal immigrants. Its interesting how the Gardner once again changes the topics that Napalm puts forward and starts talking about 9/11 attacks. This just isn’t the focus of Napalms facts, from what I can ascertain he only used it in one line??? I hope how all of you see how these liberals sidestep and name call when they cannot argue the raw facts. Napalm hardly takes one on the chin. Ty the liberal needs to educate himself with the Gardner. Why don’t you two Hillary supporters go grab a latte and talk about your feelings. Napalm you have clearly one. Again, I would like to see you write something on Gay Marriage. Any chance buddy?
-Tommy
Napalm is a sexy man with a really sexy voice! XOXOXOX
Love Audrey!
It looks like the Gardner got his coloring book out. Too bad he still can’t stay in the lines. George Bush as far as I’m concerned is the worst president since Taft. It’s still funny how he destroyed the flip-flopper! I’m hardly a racist. I judge a man by his religion and his willingness to gain knowledge. That’s why you and I will never get along. Now, don’t you have a Star Trek convention to waddle off to?
THE NAPALM
P.S. YES, I'M ONE SEXY BITCH. HEY TY STOP WATCHING JENNY JONES AND GO SELL SOMETHING. DOES YOUR BOSS LOUIS KNOW YOUR F*@KING AROUND ALL DAY ON THESE BLOGS. MUAH HA HA HA
Note to ty, change your name. I would suggest little birdy. If your going to participate in this blog we have here, PLEASE come strong. Save the chirping for Sesame-Street. See ty, I share this name with you and I find it unfortunate that after just one posting I need to distance myself from you.
So everybody please refer to ty as Little Birdy. I think we will all find that the shoe fits...
And to you Napalm... I know that Jenny Jones blast was directed at me and you best apologize. Otherwise I will tell everyone why both of your Mommy's named you The Smell Of Napalm.
And Napalm I would assume you to be smarter then that. Don't play someone else's game. You know I don't have time to post anonymous shit...
By the way I need a phone book! How much are they?
Whoa... How come my name is being brought into this? You think I am some kind of homo?
Listen ladies, it is becoming more distinctively clear who the real victocrat liberals are on this blog. It is despicable that you liberal cannot separate facts from fiction, and subject from emotion. You all sound ridiculous!
I got an idea... Let's debate the facts! Lets discuss the issues and refrain from personal attacks. These back and forth insults are degrading the integrity of this blog, and appears to be a liberal tear drop depot for all you insecure leftists.
Napalm has posted some great material on this weblog, and most others cannot compete. His content, facts, and stance on his immigration issue has yet to be credibly challenged by anybody. Not even the Gardener.
The Gardener has certainly stirred it up here, but has provided minimal material with any substance.
5 Things I am Thankful for this Thanksgiving:
1. Poor disciplined border patrol agents near Tijuana
2. Great tacos at Jose's taco stand in Santa Ana
3. The greatest president in the history of the Untied States; Jorge Bush
4. The greatest Senate/Congress in the history of the United States to make it easier for me and my fellow immigrants to be on the "fast-track" to citizenship (and may even help me to get a drivers license too so I can drive today and VOTE tomorrow!)
...and last but certainly not least.
5. People like Napalm; who consider themselves hard-nosed conservatives yet get all emotionally wrapped up in these issues and start sounding like a liberal himself.
Thank you & God Bless.
The Gardner
From what I see your the only one repeatedly firing off e-mail’s first thing in the A.M. & Can’t contest one single point I have made. Sorry, I just don't have time for your bleeding-heart liberalism nonsense right now, Thanks for trying though. One day you will be literate and maybe funny. Never give up hope Gardner from what I see you are the American dream.
THE NAPALM
HA HA the gardner just keeps getting his ass kicked!!! HA HA (SIMPSON BULLY LAUGH)
-Dale
I think the Gardner is funny.
Tony
Its interesting how Napalm dazzles us with all his fancy pictures and facts he has obviously "cut & pasted" from other sites...yet he can't answer any questions that I have risen.
You obviously have the support of this blog, yet you criticize me for my point-counterpoint, yet you fail to answer any of my questions.
Please put down your red & blue crayons long enough to write down some facts that dont involve you cut/pasting somebody else's thoughts. Think for yourself. Stop being such a clone and a sheep.
Your arguement about "cheap labor" is flawed. Cheap labor is capitalism at its core. As you know; Capitalism is an econimic systems characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition and a FREE market.
A free market allows for a "survival of the fittest" mentality, even when it comes to labor. If immigrants didnt fill a void or a need in an economic equation, then mexicans wouldnt be coming north.
As far as your claim that mexican immigrants file for Section 8 housing is ridiculous. Section 8 or the Housing Choice Voucher Program began during the Great Depression to address the country's housing crisis. Section 8 began with 3 subprograms- New COnstruction, Substantial Rehabilitation, and Existing Housing Certificate programs. Then 4 more subprograms were added 1-The Moderate Rehabilitation was added in 1978, 2- the Voucher program in 1983, and 3- the Project based Certificate program in 1991.
In 1999, 4- the Fair Market Tenant Act(FMTA) was enacted to make it hard for illegal aliens to gain access to Section 8 housing or any form of voucher-based programs. That is why you will see many immigrant families living together under one roof. That is our way to gain access to housing in this market. That way we (immigrants) can gain access to any market we choose and be limited financially frok specific complexes.
Napalm's arguments were based in the 90's and have zero relevance in todays market. His mathematics and figures are based on these figures.
Would you like me to continue?
Most of the people who read this blog are impressed with your right-wing logic, yet when you are confronted with hard data and facts, your argument doesn't seem so impressive.
The Gardner.
Dance puppet dance! Look everyone the Gardner thinks he has facts. This is really getting comical. One, they are illegal immigrants. Two, your economical argument is juvenile at best. Three, your section 8 housing argument is outdated and not supported. In short, I own you. Stop recycling my lines. Be an original! Come on Gardner you are living the American dream buddy! Thanks for the entertainment, it very funny. I'm so under your skin. Your hysterical at this point. Please continue, I'm starting to feel a Zen like enlightenment... You stick to your yummy tacos and Ill stick to my patriotism and reality.
I'm actually on Gardners side. I think Napalm is a little off base here. However, the Gardner is just getting his ass kicked up and down the block. Just stop dude. Napalm is pretty good even though I think hes an asshole. lol
-Chavez
It looks like the Gardner busted open his pinata and found a brain. Out of NO where, his argument just got a whole lot stronger...he is still getting his butt kicked by Naplam, but at least the fight is a little more interesting.
Keep it going. Throw some d's on that bitch
Paul
Gardner is such a lib! who the hell has heard of any of that Section 8 stuff...only an illegal would even know anything about that stuff.
Here is some trivia...
What is the name of the late 80's Metallica album named after what Smell of Napalm is doing to the Gardner?
-Nate
Master of Puppets, I am pulling your strings
Twisting your mind, smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you can't see a thing
JUst call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Master
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Could it also be that the gardener is really just a "Harvester of Sorrow"?
This blog is driving me "To the Frayed Edge of Sanity!"
I am really glad Beavis and Butthead have found their way onto conservativechatroom.
Can we please get back to dealing with these illegals and other issues us young conservatives have to deal with. We dont need to list every Metallica song ever written, besides those guys from Metallica dont exactly support our way of thinking!
If we dont learn how to handle ourselves and learn how to discuss politics in an intelligent manner when we encounter left-wing whackos in our everyday life, then we are no better than our apathetic friends.
Lets get back to it.
-James D
It’s so painfully obvious why I’m endorsing John Sidney McCain III (born August 29, 1936). Remember I did not put the candidates on the pedestal (even though I wish I could). It’s a simple matter of logistics and maneuvering at this point. The country, nor the vast numbers of republicans will accept a follower of Joseph Smith (Mormons are stand up citizens in my opinion). If you couldn’t see the righting on the wall with Rudy… well maybe political interpretation isn’t your bag. That’s fine, what’s not fine is once again were forced into the lesser of two evils, with the Republican Party. If you don’t think I’m aware of my decision and know my parties voting record, you would be dead wrong. Barack Hussein Obama (born August 4, 1961) and Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (born October 26, 1947) will open the flood gates on immigration. So what can we do? Not much at this point…
I appreciate people’s attemps and I guess their attempts at psychology to get sabers rattled. Political discussion is great. It’s really the only form of power any of us have. I do want to make a comment in regards to someone questioning my “class”. You should be absolutely ashamed of your self. I‘ll assume for now you have not followed by debates (although he started the personal attacks and still to this day has not successfully argued one of my facts) Someone who is a criminal, someone who breaks our laws, someone who supports and revels in the fact THAT YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND FUTURE, PAY ILLEGAL ALLIENS TO ROB OUR SYSTEM. I might lack your definition of “class”, however I won’t criticize you to much you lack brain power.
The Gardner wrote this in response to one of my blogs…
5 Things I am Thankful for this Thanksgiving:
1. Poor disciplined border patrol agents near Tijuana
2. Great tacos at Jose's taco stand in Santa Ana
3. The greatest president in the history of the Untied States; Jorge Bush
4. The greatest Senate/Congress in the history of the United States to make it easier for me and my fellow immigrants to be on the "fast-track" to citizenship (and may even help me to get a drivers license too so I can drive today and VOTE tomorrow!)
You want me to show class to a criminal that spits on our president (no matter how much he sucks) and mocks our great country? You said you’re a conservative, hmmmm? Stupid is as stupid does…
The Gardner will absolutely here a response from me, however I’ve had two deal with two deaths in the recent weeks. When I have time the garden will be torched. Know that, believe that.
-THE NAPALM
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